#001: Jerry Colonna - The Art of Growing Up

In this wide-ranging conversation, legendary executive coach, Jerry Colonna, and I talk about why stories unite us, what we can learn from depression, and the 'second adulthood.' We also explore what it feels like when you’re working on something that’s not your calling, how to resist the quiet and discomfort of being alone with oneself, and how to pick up the trail of your life to find clues for what’s next.